Thursday Apr 21, 2022

The Great Wall (feat. Elaine Hsieh Chou)

This week we journey to one of the 7 Wonders of the World to celebrate a legendary Chinese hero...Matt Damon!

We're joined by the author of the dazzling new novel Disorientation, Elaine Hsieh Chou to discuss the 2016 blockbuster, The Great Wall. The biggest American/Chinese co-production to date, and a 75 million dollar bomb. 

We talk about Matt Damon's crazy accent, the erasure of Chinese actors in a movie supposedly about them, and of course the major controversy of the Matt Damon casting. 

Elaine's debut novel Disorientation has been receiving rave reviews. It follows Taiwanese-American PHD student Ingrid Yang as she unravels a huge secret at the center of her dissertation on canonical poet Xiao-Wen Chou. It's hilarious and poignant and Elaine wants to help support Yu and Me books in Chinatown . It's the first female Asian-American NYC based bookstore and you can order the book from them here

You can follow Elaine @elainehsiehchou on Twitter and we absolutely recommend her article "What White Men Say in Our Absence" for The It's a powerful piece that speaks to these last few years and beyond. 

As always, follow us @white_pod for more behind the scenes, caucacity, and more! If you want to reach out, you can write to us at

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