White People Won't Save You

A podcast that deconstructs the white savior trope in film, and recenters the Black and PoC chaaracters and actors in them.

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Carbon Copy

Thursday Jan 18, 2024

Thursday Jan 18, 2024

Oooof! We swear we love Denzel, but this week we travel back to look at his very first movie, 1981's Carbon Copy. Someone thought of white dad, Black son, and took the rest of the day off. 
There's a million things wrong with this movie, but most of all it's the waste of Denzel. We discuss the tired gags, how the director of Coolie High could have been behind this, and much more! 
Also, don't think we let Nikki "what was the Civil War" Haley off the hook either. 
As always, hit us up on Twitter at @white_pod or message us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com 
We'll be back in two weeks talking about a good movie for a change as we discuss American Fiction. 

2023 Wrap up

Thursday Jan 04, 2024

Thursday Jan 04, 2024

Just in time for 2024, our 2023 wrap up! Jordan and Cameron take a look back at the year that was, the good and the bad.
We give our picks for best movies and music, as well as talk about some of the more problematic figures of the year *cough Eric Adams, Kanye Cough*, and finally things we're looking forward to in 2024. 
Another year, and we're so grateful to you all for listening! This show wouldn't be what it is without you. We can't for another year! As always, find us at @white_pod on Twitter, and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Happy 2024 everyone! 

Wednesday Dec 20, 2023

Happy Holidays everyone! As we do this time of year, we welcome our sisters Carmen and Kemet to join us on the show. Our selection this year, the controversial 1982 film, White Dog. 
Directed by Samuel Fuller and shelved by Paramount before it was even released, the film follows a racist dog who goes on a rampage, and we have questions. Like what the audition process was like for the Black people getting attacked by dogs. Also, why did they care more about curing the dog than...I don't know, the multiple people the dog kills?
We can't believe we're already at the end of 2023. So much love and gratitude to all of our wonderful listeners who supported us through this year. We love you and we hope you take some time to be around those you love to close the year. We've got some big things in store for 2024, so stay tuned! 

Thursday Dec 07, 2023

This one is special! We're so thrilled to be joined by Joel Robinson, a member of the Osage Nation, and professor of Native American and global indigenous media studies, Joanna Hearne, to discuss the current state of Native representation in media. 
It's an incredible conversation that covers Killers of the Flower Moon, Reservation Dogs, some film history, and tons of great recommendations to watch. 
We're super grateful to both Joel and Joanna for joining us! Check out Joel's piece for Slate on Killers of the Flower Moon here, and find Joanna's books here and here. 
We also wanted to make as many resources available as possible so check out our Google Doc that has a list of the films recommended as well as some books and more! Also, The National Film Board of Canada has a bunch of films you can watch for free on their website! 
You can find Joel at @trythebuffer on Twitter and IG and you can find us at @white_pod as well as at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We've gotten so many great messages recently and we promise we'll get back to everyone soon! 
Speaking of soon, look out for our annual holiday episode and end of year round up coming up in the next few weeks! 

Thursday Nov 23, 2023

As the Holiday season starts up, we turn towards a classic, and one we've been low-key avoiding. But the time has finally come for us to watch one of the craziest movies we've seen so far, 1964's Black Like Me.  
We're joined by friend of the show Dare Johnson to talk about a movie where a white man pretends to be Black to see "what it's like." If that wasn't bad enough, it's based on a real experiment done by journalist John Howard Griffin. 
We've got a lot to talk about with this one, including how not one Black person called him out for obviously being a white man, how no Black person knew he was a white man, and how not one damn Black person said, "ain't you a white man"? 
As we get ready to close out 2023, we just want to say how much we appreciate you all and we hope you're able to wind down and spend some quality time with those you love. Times are rough, so be sure to hold on to the good things. 
You can find Dare @badicaldude, and hit us up at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to let us know what you thought of this one and what we should watch in 2024. We'll be back in two weeks with Spike Lee produced, Son of the South. 

Thursday Nov 09, 2023

*Note, unfortunately we had some recording issues on this episode and lost part of our conversation, but we still have a great episode for you and Kaili will be back!
You know we had to talk about this one! We're joined by the super talented Kaili Y. Turner to discuss the buzziest Oscar film of the season, Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon. 
Based on the book of the same name and depicting the heinous Osage Indian murders that spanned over 10 years, we get into what this movie would have looked like from an Osage perspective, reaction from Native critics, and much, much more. 
Kaili is incredible and you definitely need to be on everything they have going on. Check out Kaili's website and find them on Twitter at @Kailyturner. 
We'll also have much more coverage of KotFM coming up so stay tuned for that. As always, find us at @white_pod and email us your thoughts at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com 
We'll be back in two weeks with Dare Johnson talking about Black Like Me!

Karen

Thursday Oct 26, 2023

Thursday Oct 26, 2023

Ladies and gentlemen, 2021's Karen.
 
 
 
Wait...you need us to say more? Well, in honor of the spooky season, we subjected ourselves to one of the most absurd movies we've watched yet. Cameron and Jordan discuss what the hell everyone involved was thinking, the Get Out effect on Black horror, and a Cee-Lo Green song so bad it makes us long for Taylor Swift's cover of September. 
With all the uncertainty in the world, hope everyone is doing alright out there. It's important to stay informed, but watching death on this wide a scale isn't normal. Take care of yourselves. 
Keep up with us for the time being on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at  whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back in two weeks with Black Like Me. 

Rooftops

Wednesday Oct 11, 2023

Wednesday Oct 11, 2023

Ever wonder what West Side Story would be like if you took out all the songs, dancing, drama, and replaced it with fake combat dancing and crack? Well, you get 1989's extremely confusing film, Rooftops. 
Actually directed by West Side Story's Robert Wise and completely wasting Tisha Campbell and Allen Payne, this one was a real head scratcher. Jordan and Cam talk the bait and switch of the trailer, the absurd "dance combat", and Lobo's press on nails. 
Also, one of the wildest stories of Caucacity in 2023. 
We're still out here on Twitter until it implodes at @white_pod . Follow us there and we'll see you in two weeks for maybe the wildest movie we've covered yet, 1964's Black Like Me.

Wednesday Sep 27, 2023

This week, we step into the ring to go 12 rounds with the one and only Denzel Washington. We're joined in our corner by comedian Drexton Clemons (Game Breakers on Prime) to break down 1999's The Hurricane. 
The story of Rubin Carter, a boxer wrongly convicted of murder, it got Denzel a Golden Globe and an Oscar nomination. It was also almost all lies. We get into the real story of Rubin's trial, if there has ever been as absurd a cop as Della Pesca, and discuss if Denzel has ever been in a truly bad film. 
Follow Drexton on Twitter (no X over here) and Instagram (both @thisguydrex) for upcoming stand up dates as well as all your sports takes on Game Breakers! 
You can also follow us on Twitter at @white_pod to stay up on all the caucacity going down, upcoming live shows, and more! We'll be back in two weeks with 1989's dance drama Rooftops! 

Ninja Vengeance

Thursday Sep 14, 2023

Thursday Sep 14, 2023

WE BACK BABBBBYYYYYY! Saviorless Summer is over and the time has come to return and karate chop these white savior movies in the neck. 
And what better way to start than with Ninja Vengeance! Have you ever wondered what it would look like if a white ninja fought the KKK? Look no further than this mess of a B-movie that...look, it's a lot. A love subplot with the chemistry of an Ikea manual. The karate of a community theater production of Mortal Kombat. And an understanding of race on par with Ron DeSantis. 
A lot has happened during our break, including the continued strikes for writers and actors and the wildfires in Hawaii. If you can, consider giving to both here and here. 
Also as a programming note, we're going to be releasing episodes bi-weekly from here on. So don't freak if we don't show up in the feed next week, we'll be back the following week! 
Follow us on...(sigh) X at @white_pod and be on the look out for our IG coming soon. We love y'all and it's good to be back! 

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